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	<title>Comments on: Ridgeland School District 122 Referendum</title>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
		<link>http://mythoughtsideasandramblings.com/2008/02/06/ridgeland-school-district-122-referendum/#comment-40324</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 03:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not that I know of.  Right now, I can&#039;t even get anyone from the district to answer some very simple questions like class size.  I&#039;ve tried calling the school my daughter is to go to next year, and they won&#039;t talk to me at all.  I can only call the district who won&#039;t answer my questions either.  All they wil tell me is that they won&#039;t let the class size go above 30 kids.  Unless something drastically changes between now and August,  my daughter will be attending kindergarden at a private school.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not that I know of.  Right now, I can&#8217;t even get anyone from the district to answer some very simple questions like class size.  I&#8217;ve tried calling the school my daughter is to go to next year, and they won&#8217;t talk to me at all.  I can only call the district who won&#8217;t answer my questions either.  All they wil tell me is that they won&#8217;t let the class size go above 30 kids.  Unless something drastically changes between now and August,  my daughter will be attending kindergarden at a private school.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Shelstrom</title>
		<link>http://mythoughtsideasandramblings.com/2008/02/06/ridgeland-school-district-122-referendum/#comment-40323</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Shelstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 02:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did the committee Dave discussed above, including giving opportunities to parents to propose spending reallocation to benefit the children, ever occur?

I haven&#039;t seen anything about it in the paper or on the web site.

People have been contacting me about their running for the Board for 122, and if the Board and adminstration haven&#039;t given parents the opportunity to identify and propose cutting expenses where it hurts the children and families least, it certainly seems that a Board more connected and respectful of the community should be elected.

By the way, I&#039;ve heard rumors that the teacher&#039;s union is threatening a strike if the Board doesn&#039;t give them a contract that increases salaries and benefits at a rate higher than the cost of living.

If that&#039;s true, it would become very clear who the &quot;villains&quot; are who caused the childrens&#039; programs to be cut, and it sure wasn&#039;t the taxpayers or those who voted against the referendum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did the committee Dave discussed above, including giving opportunities to parents to propose spending reallocation to benefit the children, ever occur?</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t seen anything about it in the paper or on the web site.</p>
<p>People have been contacting me about their running for the Board for 122, and if the Board and adminstration haven&#8217;t given parents the opportunity to identify and propose cutting expenses where it hurts the children and families least, it certainly seems that a Board more connected and respectful of the community should be elected.</p>
<p>By the way, I&#8217;ve heard rumors that the teacher&#8217;s union is threatening a strike if the Board doesn&#8217;t give them a contract that increases salaries and benefits at a rate higher than the cost of living.</p>
<p>If that&#8217;s true, it would become very clear who the &#8220;villains&#8221; are who caused the childrens&#8217; programs to be cut, and it sure wasn&#8217;t the taxpayers or those who voted against the referendum.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike L</title>
		<link>http://mythoughtsideasandramblings.com/2008/02/06/ridgeland-school-district-122-referendum/#comment-40169</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 18:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Lisa,

I enjoyed your discussion with Ed and Bob on your blog. All three of you are very knowledgeable and level-minded. 
I&#039;m responding to your comment on http://learnthinkdo.blogivists.com/2008/11/26/a-note-for-the-future-this-is-how-referendum-looks-like/

Please consider the possibility that we have been conditioned by the school system into a powerless way of thinking about the school priorities.

Let&#039;s stop assuming that the district can simply discard a program to cut the 
budget. Let&#039;s create a vision that art and music classes have the 
same priority as sports and regular classes. Let&#039;s also create a vision that the district cannot simply fire teachers to save money.

The district might cut across the board.
Teacher salary schedules have a rigid &quot;step-down&quot; system that rewards seniority and a masters degree.
Teacher health plans are always exceptionally generous to the teachers, with a token premium and a token deductible.
Our plan has 92% utilization by the teachers. 92% of insurance company&#039;s income goes right back to the teachers.
The company is stuck with 8% gross margin. No wonder it bumps the premium by 12% for next year.
Add up the salaries, health payouts, pension payouts of a 15-year high school teacher.
15 years of experience (seniority) is average for teachers. The district could easily pay out $120-$130K a year.

Imagine you&#039;re a VP of iPod product line in Apple. 
Recession is here and Apple&#039;s income is down.
Steve Jobs throws out an idea to cancel iPod and focus only on iPhone and Mac. But you know that iPod is just as important to Apple as the iPhone and the Mac.
Are you going to appeal to his sympathy for your about-to-go-hungry family or are you going to stand for what you know is right?
If you stand up for yourself you will prove to Steve why iPod belongs in company&#039;s portfolio. 

It might be uncomfortable, but you must get the district to bring those expenses down from $120K to $110K a year.
The teachers certainly are wonderful and they wouldn&#039;t like it , but it&#039;s also tough to manage a lot of other jobs for far less money.

The union wants you to think only about this year&#039;s art and music.
Don&#039;t let them set these parameters for you.
You gotta stand up, not only as one mother of one student, as also as an owner of the district.

You&#039;re not the only one.
Once you stand up, others will too.
Please stand up! 

Mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Lisa,</p>
<p>I enjoyed your discussion with Ed and Bob on your blog. All three of you are very knowledgeable and level-minded.<br />
I&#8217;m responding to your comment on <a href="http://learnthinkdo.blogivists.com/2008/11/26/a-note-for-the-future-this-is-how-referendum-looks-like/" rel="nofollow">http://learnthinkdo.blogivists.com/2008/11/26/a-note-for-the-future-this-is-how-referendum-looks-like/</a></p>
<p>Please consider the possibility that we have been conditioned by the school system into a powerless way of thinking about the school priorities.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s stop assuming that the district can simply discard a program to cut the<br />
budget. Let&#8217;s create a vision that art and music classes have the<br />
same priority as sports and regular classes. Let&#8217;s also create a vision that the district cannot simply fire teachers to save money.</p>
<p>The district might cut across the board.<br />
Teacher salary schedules have a rigid &#8220;step-down&#8221; system that rewards seniority and a masters degree.<br />
Teacher health plans are always exceptionally generous to the teachers, with a token premium and a token deductible.<br />
Our plan has 92% utilization by the teachers. 92% of insurance company&#8217;s income goes right back to the teachers.<br />
The company is stuck with 8% gross margin. No wonder it bumps the premium by 12% for next year.<br />
Add up the salaries, health payouts, pension payouts of a 15-year high school teacher.<br />
15 years of experience (seniority) is average for teachers. The district could easily pay out $120-$130K a year.</p>
<p>Imagine you&#8217;re a VP of iPod product line in Apple.<br />
Recession is here and Apple&#8217;s income is down.<br />
Steve Jobs throws out an idea to cancel iPod and focus only on iPhone and Mac. But you know that iPod is just as important to Apple as the iPhone and the Mac.<br />
Are you going to appeal to his sympathy for your about-to-go-hungry family or are you going to stand for what you know is right?<br />
If you stand up for yourself you will prove to Steve why iPod belongs in company&#8217;s portfolio. </p>
<p>It might be uncomfortable, but you must get the district to bring those expenses down from $120K to $110K a year.<br />
The teachers certainly are wonderful and they wouldn&#8217;t like it , but it&#8217;s also tough to manage a lot of other jobs for far less money.</p>
<p>The union wants you to think only about this year&#8217;s art and music.<br />
Don&#8217;t let them set these parameters for you.<br />
You gotta stand up, not only as one mother of one student, as also as an owner of the district.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re not the only one.<br />
Once you stand up, others will too.<br />
Please stand up! </p>
<p>Mike</p>
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		<title>By: Learn Think Do &#187; Blog Archive &#187; A note for the future: This is how referendum looks like</title>
		<link>http://mythoughtsideasandramblings.com/2008/02/06/ridgeland-school-district-122-referendum/#comment-40054</link>
		<dc:creator>Learn Think Do &#187; Blog Archive &#187; A note for the future: This is how referendum looks like</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 08:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Voila, a single comment to the article is incredibly valuable. Impossibly incredibly priceless! First, it&#8217;s by Bob Sheldstrom, a fairly well known anti-tax activist. He has several posts at another wonderful lady&#8217;s blog: http://mythoughtsideasandramblings.com/2008/02/06/ridgeland-school-district-122-referendum/ [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Voila, a single comment to the article is incredibly valuable. Impossibly incredibly priceless! First, it&#8217;s by Bob Sheldstrom, a fairly well known anti-tax activist. He has several posts at another wonderful lady&#8217;s blog: <a href="http://mythoughtsideasandramblings.com/2008/02/06/ridgeland-school-district-122-referendum/" rel="nofollow">http://mythoughtsideasandramblings.com/2008/02/06/ridgeland-school-district-122-referendum/</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Student @ Simmons</title>
		<link>http://mythoughtsideasandramblings.com/2008/02/06/ridgeland-school-district-122-referendum/#comment-18845</link>
		<dc:creator>Student @ Simmons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 04:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a student, that was on the basketball team, I think we need sports and things to do after school to help keep us out of trouble!  Some parents can&#039;t afford to pay the over priced park district fees for sports that last two weeks for one to two days in those weeks!  We NEED SOMETHING TO DO!!  Oh and we are not learning anything because we have WAY to many kids in our class and no one to help our teachers!!!!  Why wouldn&#039;t they STOP LETTING people who can afford to pay for school come in for FREE or eat lunch for FREE!!! I am only 13 and know that I could help cut the budget!!!  And help keep us off the streets and into sports!!  I could care less about art (even though I love it) or music (hate it)  but the sports are needed to help us stay fit.  How much exercise are we getting in a gym class with 135 kids, and yeah some of them really really need the exercise!!!  And another thing our teachers are STRESSED with all the kids in one class, its not easy to control all those kids and teach!   BOARD HELP US!!!!  Don&#039;t hurt us!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a student, that was on the basketball team, I think we need sports and things to do after school to help keep us out of trouble!  Some parents can&#8217;t afford to pay the over priced park district fees for sports that last two weeks for one to two days in those weeks!  We NEED SOMETHING TO DO!!  Oh and we are not learning anything because we have WAY to many kids in our class and no one to help our teachers!!!!  Why wouldn&#8217;t they STOP LETTING people who can afford to pay for school come in for FREE or eat lunch for FREE!!! I am only 13 and know that I could help cut the budget!!!  And help keep us off the streets and into sports!!  I could care less about art (even though I love it) or music (hate it)  but the sports are needed to help us stay fit.  How much exercise are we getting in a gym class with 135 kids, and yeah some of them really really need the exercise!!!  And another thing our teachers are STRESSED with all the kids in one class, its not easy to control all those kids and teach!   BOARD HELP US!!!!  Don&#8217;t hurt us!</p>
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